Sunday, September 08, 2013

From Middle East to Middle Earth

Camels Crossing in the Middle East
Oh yes, I am here in New Zealand. I have been here for a couple of months now and in my first months here I had the bridging programme or the Competency Assessment Programme (CAP) for nurses. CAP is the ONLY way an internationally registered nurse can legally be a registered nurse in this country.

The interest of Filipino nurses on New Zealand actually started when the United States limited its visas for Filipino registered nurses. So Filipinos, of course, started to look for other options, and one of those is New Zealand.

Please don’t be fooled enticed by agencies’ claim that you could enter New Zealand as a student for a healthcare related course with a privilege to work for 20 hours per week, that’s a waste of time and a huge waste of your money! But if you have all the time and money, it's up to you. What I'm telling is that you have your options, and I suggest you to pick the most convenient one. If you’ve got at least two years of post-registration experience, take the IELTS (Academic) and achieve an Overall Band Score (OBS) of 7.0 with no score less than 7.0 in any of the subtests. The higher scores you get, the more chances of getting a CAP slot.


Believe it or not, you can actually process everything without any help of an agency. However, CAP search is really difficult nowadays as the demand is very high but the number of CAP slots is really limited. That means you are competing against nurses with heaps of experience locally and/or overseas. But wait, don’t be discouraged fast! You are reading this post because you’re curious of how to get to New Zealand when you come from the Middle East... Yes, I made this post especially for those nurses hailing from Jeddah. And if you have a Middle Eastern-setting experience, I say you have a better chance of getting a CAP slot and soon land a job in New Zealand.

So how do you get to New Zealand? Of course you have to undergo a lot of assessments and documents processing. It’s a tedious task, believe me, but if you focus on your objectives and you are a goal-oriented individual, you are certainly capable of reaching your dreams! Mahirap pero kaya!


Penguins Crossing

How much do you need to get to New Zealand? That would be roughly 450k to 700k Philippine Pesos. That’s inclusive of IELTS fees, courier fees, Nursing Council fees, the CAP school tuition, plane tickets, accommodation, food, transportation, etcetera. Let me give you a breakdown (prices are approximate):

  • PhP 1,600 - New Zealand Embassy in Manila authentication of PRC Board Certificate (Board Certificate should be in Red Ribbon from DFA)
  • PhP 115 - NBI Clearance
  • PhP 9,500 (SAR 850) - IELTS exam fee
  • PhP 1,150 (SAR 100) - Authentication/Notary Public/Certified True Copy of documents in Philippine Consulate EACH document (IELTS result form, Employment Certificate, Nursing Council application form, passport)
  • PhP 1,150 (SAR 100) - Application for Police Clearance (Note Verbale) from Philippine Consulate
  • PhP 345 (SAR 30) - Authentication of Note Verbale from Philippine Consulate to Jeddah's Ministry of Foreign Affairs
  • PhP 2,300 to PhP 4,500 (SAR 200 to 350) - Courier Fee from Jeddah to New Zealand for Stage 1 AND Stage 2 documents
  • PhP 16,500 (NZ$ 485) - Nursing Council application (VISA credit card)
  • PhP 18,000 (SAR 1,700) - Medical; Done in Saudi German Hospital in Jeddah; Usually PhP 8,500 when done in the Philippines)
  • PhP 6,300 - VIA Fee (Visa); Manager's check
  • PhP 48,020 - Plane ticket via Singapore Air (Manila-Singapore-Auckland-Otago)
  • PhP 262,000 (NZ$ 7,680) - CAP tuition plus medical insurance) 
  • Others - Taxi, jeep, bus, tricycle; a couple of hundred pesos for the school and PRC documents

So roughly PhP 400,000 ang ginastos ko for the processing ng CAP. If you are good in logic, you will notice that you are using your Pesos or Riyals ng paunti-unti. You won't need the 400k in one day. That is why it is wise to work on your papers while you are employed in Jeddah because you keep earning Riyals every month. PLUS...

  • PhP 150,000 to 200,000 - Show money; This has to be in your bank account (as required by the Immigration) because you will need at least NZ$ 1,000 per month to finance your self here in New Zealand for the duration of your CAP. This is the money I am using right now to finance my self here in New Zealand.

Heto ang breakdown ng gastos ko during and after the CAP:

  • NZ$120-135 per week - Accommodation (internet, electricity, water, kitchen, etc. included); this will eat so much of your budget!!!
  • NZ$30 per week - Transportation by bus (You have the option to walk going to the school or your placement, but I didn't want to tire myself that's why I used the public transpo. My point, I was a student that time, I should have the energy to STUDY (during the two-week classroom set-up) or WORK (during the 6 weeks of clinicals).
  • NZ$30-80 per week - Food (I cook my own food, minsan take away kapag tinatamad. haha.). Some could budget NZ$20 per week, pero sobrang gutom na yun for me. You always want to be active and healthy especially when you are alone in a foreign country, right? Invest in your health! 
  • NZ$110 - Annual Practising Certificate (using a VISA Credit Card)
  • NZ$360 - Work Visa application

Generally, the cost of living is higher in New Zealand as compared to Manila and Jeddah. BUT you have to consider a lot of factors when talking about cost of living like the purchasing power of the currency and the salary you receive. To give you the idea of the comparison of standard of living in our cities/countries of interests here, check these links:


If you are an OFW who works in Jeddah, your salary is TAX FREE. But when you work in New Zealand you'll have a whopping 30% of your salary to pay the tax (depending on your salary range). After the tax has been deducted, you still have to pay for the bills and the rent! PERO if you earn dollars that is 3-4 times of what you earn in Jeddah, mas MALAKI pa rin and maitatabi mo for your savings. Nakakahinayang lang talaga gumastos lalo na kung nagsisimula ka pa lang sa New Zealand and you are spending your savings from Saudi.

If you are very wise and mindful of your expenses, you will need just the minimum amount to finance the whole duration of your bridging course. In short, that’s what you need from the start of the process up to the time that you get registered as a nurse here in New Zealand. Nakakagulat noh? I’m just presenting the reality here. 



Enough of my words of wisdom. Haha. Let me refer you to a few internet links that would be of great use to you or your friend, or your son, or your daughter, or your relative, or your brother/sister, or kung sinuman

The Nursing Council of New Zealand website. 


This is where you will know all of the requirements by the Council. Also in the website are guidelines on how to complete the requirements. Browse over the application form and the guidelines and start completing the Stage 1 documents! Let me warn you that the requirements change from time to time, so make sure you check the website every now and then to be sure that you are using the correct document/s.


Nurse2NZ blog site.


 

This blog is THE BLOG that will help you through the minute details of working on the documents. It is a blog tailor-made for Filipinos and made by a Filipino. The blog started in 2007. Since then, the Nursing Council guidelines changed numerous times, good thing the blogger also updates his blog once in a while. That's a proof that the Filipino bayanihan still exists in the digital age.


Nurse2NZ forum.

 

I strongly urge you to become a member of the forum he (the blogger) made for further discussions, all your questions and answers about documents processing can be found there! Don’t worry, there’s no membership fee or anything, you just have to sign-up with your unique username and voila! Start reading first-hand inputs from nurses who made it to New Zealand by themselves!!!



Working on the Documents While in Saudi

Now, the following paragraphs will detail how Jeddah-based nurses could process their documents while in Saudi Arabia. Again, browse over and study the step by step procedures found in the links I gave above before you proceed...

While in the Philippines, process your Stage 1 documents and also apply for an NBI clearance. All the guidelines for internationally registered nurses can be found in the Nursing Council's website. The steps outlined in the main blogsite are the same steps I followed, of course, except for the documents from Saudi (like your Saudi license verification, employment certificate from your company, Saudi police clearance, and the certification of your Saudi documents). Please take note of the changes made by the Council on the process and requirements, the police clearance is now required for Stage 2, it used to be in Stage 1.

If you are working and have stayed in Saudi Arabia for at least 6 months, you will definitely need to give NCNZ a police certificate from Saudi. You could Google 'how to obtain a police clearance in Saudi Arabia' for the details, and if in case you're in Jeddah just search this blog site as I have blogged about the topic a few months ago. If you are Filipino (I suppose), you need to secure the NBI clearance from the Philippines where you grew up. In short, both are required for your application. Please take note of the expiration dates of your clearances, the New Zealand Immigration requires clearances to be not more than 6 months old.

For your passport, you could have it notarized in the Philippine Embassy in Riyadh or Philippine Consulate in Jeddah. It costs SAR 100.

As soon as you completed the Stage 1 documents, send them to NCNZ as soon as possible because you will need the Stage 2 forms and your reference number from them.

This is how I managed. I sent my documents (Stage 1) through FedEx (just last December) and the Council (New Zealand) received those after 4 working days. After 24 hours of them receiving my papers, I received a text message from my credit card company that 485 NZ dollars was charged to my account; a few hours later, I received an email with 3 attachments from the Overseas Registration Team Leader. The attachments were as follows: one was the Verification Request, the other was the Transcript Request, and the last was the latest New Zealand Educational Standards. Of course the Transcript Request is for your nursing school in the Philippines and the Verification Request is for Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) and Saudi Commission for Health Specialties (SCHS). Also, the team leader specified my reference number and a number of instructions and reminders.


SCHS’s Jeddah Branch is just a few meters away from my hospital, so it wasn’t much of a hassle in my part. The guys from the reception directed me to the 3rd floor where a number of tarja and abaya-covered ladies were doing office work. I just presented the Verification Request (with my reference number handwritten on the upper right corner of the page) and explained that it’s for the Nursing Council of New Zealand. A lady requested for the photocopies of my SCHS identification card AND my SCHS certificate where she based some of the information needed in the Verification Request. The request has tick marks on it and they will just tick yes or no if you have a pending investigation, if your license has been revoked or suspended, and if you have any mental or physical conditions. Your registration details and educational qualifications should also be supplied. Make sure they sign all the required fields. I actually guided the lady as she went through the document especially in spelling a number of critical words (my name and my university! She misspelled those that’s why I provided another copy of the document, good thing I had 3 copies).

NCNZ’s instruction is for the professional regulating body to directly send the document to New Zealand. The document was sent via FedEx. After 4 days, NCNZ received my document and the Overseas Registration Administrator confirmed the receipt of my Saudi document.

Some ex-Saudi nurses claimed that they were required to secure a Certificate of Good Standing from SCHS where they had to pay 300 Riyals. I don’t know how they went through it but I did not pay any amount to SCHS. And the whole process, from entering until I exited the building only ate 25 minutes of my time.

I’m sure there is a SCHS branch near you, check this out:

http://www.scfhs.org.sa/en/about/Pages/ContactInfo.aspx

Just a piece of advice, before you leave Saudi, secure all your Saudi documents beforehand. You know how “they” process things in Saudi: ten years. Paano pa kaya kung nasa ‘Pinas ka na or in New Zealand? Make sure you have your updated police clearance (a requirement when you apply for a job in NZ), reference letters from your superiors (get multiple copies), employment certificate (get multiple copies as much as possible), and Certificate of Good Standing from SCHS.

I couldn't process the PRC and Nursing school documents while abroad, so I just asked my parents to work on it. I posted the required documents and
provided them the step by step guidelines on how to work on my documents. They managed well, kudos to them, especially to my mom. Hooray!



After the Nursing Council Approval

As soon as the Nursing Council received my Stage 2 documents, I got approved. They asked me to look for a CAP provider – it was extremely difficult! I got rejected a LOT of times. Most of the providers are full for 2013. Some are claiming that they still have a 'long waitlist' for 2014 which is quite alarming especially if you consider the expiration dates of the decision letters issued by the Council.

But then again, I explored my options. One of the CAP providers accepted me in their June 2013 CAP intake. I was shocked when they sent the offer of place because originally, their intake should be in August 2013, nagulat na lang ako na ang starting date ay June 14. Kasi in Saudi Arabia, as per contract, we are asked to give 90 days notice before the resignation date. I was quite devastated that time... But I again explored my options... I talked to the Human Resources specialists and thankfully they offered me a solution to my problem. I did my medicals in one of Jeddah’s accredited hospitals (Saudi German Hospital) which ate 18,500 pesos of my budget! Ang mahal sa Saudi! I made sure I had the complete documents and finally, I bid my maasalama (goodbye) to Saudi Arabia. 
 
I stayed further sa Philippines for about 10 days. It was a risk as I had less than a week to process my visit visa (visit visa is given to CAP students as the course only lasts for 2-3 months; you will need a student visa if your course is at least 6 months). I prayed. Visa was released in two days! Again, before flying to NZ, nagbasa at nagbasa ulit ako ng posts sa forum. Halos nandoon na kasi lahat. The vacuum bag tip of a forumer was really helpful! I did not have a hard time passing by NAIA’s Immigration. I guess that’s because of my numerous ins and outs of the country as an OFW.



The Kiwi Nation
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

CAP was good. It was a very classroom-type set-up. There were 6 Kiwis, 7 Indians, 1 Korean, and the rest were Filipinos, all in all 32 kami lahat sa CAP. First time raw nangyari yun. See, CAP has become a money-making business for schools! If you are a good student and you are mindful of the reason of coming to New Zealand (lalo na yung perang nagastos), then you wouldn’t have a hard time sa mga activities. The two-week theoretical sessions ended with a written exam about New Zealand professional Nursing and a skills exam (practicals) ng adult, infant, and child BLS, and common hospital procedures (indwelling catheterisation, aeseptic technique, etc.).

Clinical placement was also fine. I guess my experience in the Emergency Department (ED) for the last 5 years helped me land a DHB hospital for my clinicals. Or probably, nagkataon na kailangan lang nila ng extra help sa ED kaya they got me. My CAP classmates had heaps of experience from different areas as well pero almost all were placed in resthomes and hospice care facilities. I didn’t have a hard time adjusting kasi very universal naman ang nursing principles especially the Nursing Council competencies. In short, my clinical placement became the extension of my experience from the Philippines and Saudi Arabia. My clinical preceptor was really kind and helpful, another reason why I enjoyed and successfully completed my clinical placement. During the 6-week placement, we were asked to pass requirements including the exemplar for the portfolio. You wouldn’t have a problem with those requirements as long as you know how to reflect on your practice and you know technical writing.

I submitted job applications online during my CAP placement. I was really picky, I just applied to DHBs. As expected, a couple of my applications were unsuccessful. They claimed that I did not meet the minimum requirements. I believe they rejected my application dahil wala pa akong registration and APC. But I was persistent, nag-apply ako sa every ED positions available. Of the 8 applications I sent, I was rejected in 3, still waiting for replies from the 4 applications (as of writing this), and the remaining 1, I was asked to appear for an interview and was offered a full-time job.

The interview, I think, went well. I wasn’t able to answer one of their questions that relate to evidence based nursing, pero the interviewer redirected the question hanggang sa nasagot ko rin eventually. I thought I wouldn’t get the job because of that. Whew! The forumers were right, they asked about competencies, but in my case I wasn’t asked about my skills and clinical experience. I was expecting that they would ask about the USUAL chest pain, stroke and thrombolytics, amputation, triage, rapid sequence induction, pericardiocentesis, PICC lines, ACLS, ATLS, inotropes, thoracotomy, burns, and other common cases in the ED. Instead, they bombarded me with questions about professionalism. They asked about conflict and stress management, cultural diversity, continuing education, prioritisation, and my hobbies! Haha. I was even prepped to sing a song in front of the panel, but they did not insist!

They reached my Kiwi references, my clinical preceptor and clinical lecturer, and in 48 hours, they offered me the job by phone. Now I am just processing my papers before I commence work.


Sa akin lang po... Maraming paraan kung magpupursigi lang. I remember my mom always tells us, "focus lang anak." I guess I focused well enough to have reached this dream of mine, to work in a first world country. It took me almost a year to process things before I finally became registered here in New Zealand. Again, mahirap pero kaya! Kung kaya ko, kaya niyo rin!

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mark said...

Mabruk!!!..thanks for this post

Anonymous said...

wow congrats!! you've been through a lot but it's all worth it! =D

Anonymous said...

can i ask how is the cost of living in nz?

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

Hello. I've added a paragraph that compares the standard of living in Jeddah-Manila-Auckland. Check it out! :)

Anonymous said...

thanks for your immediate reply!:)))

Anonymous said...

Hi, ask ko lang kung ilang taon ang experience mo sa pilipinas bago ka pumunta sa jeddah? included ba yung experience mo sa pilipinas sa application mo sa new zealand? or yung experience mo sa jeddah ang ginamit mo para makapag apply ka sa new zealand? please reply. thank you.

Anonymous said...

kung polyclinic ba ang pinagtrabahuhan sa saudi, pwede ba mag apply sa new zealand after ng contract sa polyclinic sa saudi? what do you think?

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

They consider any clinical experience here valid, kahit clinic pa. I suggest you sign-up sa forums (Nurse2NZ) to know more. It's getting tougher for Filipinos to get jobs here in New Zealand. The selling factors (marketability) the employers will look at are the quality and quantity of your experience in Nursing.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the reply. Meaning, hindi sigurado na matatanggap dyan sa New Zealand kahit may experience ka pa? I mean, 50-50 pa na matanggap? Haay.. Actually, kahit dito sa pilipinas wala pa akong hospital experience. Volunteer lang ako for 9 months sa ER din. No salary at all. Batch 2010 ako at hanggang ngayon wala pa akong paid hospital experience. Merong mga hospital na nag-ooffer ng training tapos ako pa ang magbabayad pero hindi naman sure kung maaabsorb ako sa hospital. So 50-50 din na maging staff nurse ako. Gusto ko mag-abroad pero wala akong sapat na experience na pwede i-present kapag nag-apply na ako. Humahanap ako ng hospital na may hiring pero wala talaga. Nawawalan na ako ng pag-asa na i-pursue ang nursing career ko kasi hanggang ngayon wala akong matinong work bilang nurse. Sabi ng kapatid ko mag-aral na lang daw ako ng autocad para kapag nagkaexperience ako e makapag-abroad din ako at kumita ng malaki. Pero gusto ko talaga ang nursing, yun nga lang wala akong makitang hospital na pwede akong maging staff nurse. Sorry ha, depressing ang comment ko. I just want to share my experience. Kung ikaw ang nasa katayuan ko, anong gagawin mo?

Anonymous said...

Hello, pwede ko ba malaman kung anong name ng agency mo sa pilipinas bound to saudi arabia? pls. reply. thanks.

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Franco Flores said...

nice blog sir! i'm also a nurse, in 2 weeks i will be deployed in dammam, polyclinic lang ang inoffer nila sakin. any suggestions sir? ok lang ba sa polyclinic? thank you and more power!

thetrotterbrother said...

Hi! Can you help me with something? I really felt devastated with how my process is moving. I am from KSA just like you but I already went home same month you made this blog. I saw your blog by the way through Google's search engine because I just got a reply from the NZNC on the stage 2 of my application and they said that Saudi Council incompletely filled up the form by not answering the 3 questions with the yes and no. I was told to resend it again and for all you know it is really too costly and time consuming since I no longer reside in the kingdom. I hope to get a response from you how can I contact you? Hoping for your help sir.

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@thetrotterbrother, if you have friends who are currently in Saudi you could ask them to process the papers for you. One of my colleagues had her stage 2 documents processed by another colleague when she was in the Philippines for a vacation; she just sent an authorization letter and all her Saudi documents (original and copies). With all the courier fees, it would really cost a lot. I can't think of other options. Good luck.

thetrotterbrother said...

Thank you so much for the reply sir! Anyway I already did that unfortunately I was asked again to resend and refill up the form because there was a mistake. Grabe talaga sila sir ang dali2 na nga lang nung pag fill up mali pa. lol anyway what about your police clearance? It is one of those requirements that is difficult to get kasi 6 months lang validity sa NZ. Did you get another one? is it required while applying for jobs or para lang yun sa immigration purposes? Also, yung good standing ceritificate is it also required or not necessary? I will soon be applying for CAP hope meron pa for this year. Most of the CAP kasi at 8 weeks I am looking for 6 weeks to give room for looking for a job para valid pa to stay.

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@thetrotterbrother, I feel your sentiments.. Haha. I am still struggling to get my Saudi police clearance as of writing this. The Philippine Embassy gave me the incomplete instructions on how to secure one. Apparently, the fingerprint card has to be authenticated by the New Zealand, Philippine, AND Saudi Embassy (they instructed me na sa Philippine Embassy and New Zealand lang). Imagine the amount of effort and money wasted dahil sa inefficiency ng Consulate sa Jeddah. Yes, you will need a police clearance from your country of origin and/or wherever you lived for 12 months or more... Kailangan sa immigration, ng Nursing Council, sa CAP, at sa work.

jayson oliva said...

sir, Good day! i would just like to ask regarding issues of saudi council Lic in CAP application.. my brother is currently in new zealand now, trying his luck to be qualified for the CAP program. however, the council questioned his tittle in Saudi council Lic "Nurse Technician". According to them it is equivalent to Nursing aid only. one more thing, our curriculum is ladderized. we had taken up midwifery first then another 2 years to complete nursing. they are also questioning the curriculum that we had taken and they said its unusual to be nurse midwife. what remedy should my brother do? thank you and God bless.

Roman Cabonce said...

Hi, Good day! Pede kaya apply nurse residence visa so me ample time to take CAP and find work there in New Zealand? Thanks in advance in any of your advise or opinion.

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@Jayson, there are two categories of nurses in Saudi, one is Nurse Technician who are generalists, and the other is Nurse Specialist who are specialists in their field (post-grad degrees). I'm not so sure about that, so the most appropriate people to ask and to give advice would be the Saudi Commission for Health Specialties.. The Nursing Council of New Zealand's aim is to assess and evaluate if the education obtained by the international registered nurse applicant is equivalent to the New Zealand standards. So the only thing he can do, for me, is just to prove to the Council that the courses he had taken from college is the same or equivalent from the standards in New Zealand. He may want to seek for the assistance of the dean to explain further that the ladderized programme covers the basic foundations of nursing. Good luck.

nurzkai said...

Wow! I should say this blog made me super motivated after reading it. Thank you!

btw, I have a few questions here... I'm a bit in dilemma about this situation. You see, I just got married last April and I haven't change my status yet at the PRC and I still bear my single name on my passport. Do you suggest I should change all my documents first(I mean from single to married name) before applying at NCNZ? Do I need NBI clearance from the Philippines to proceed on the STAGE 1? Because I am currently working in Kuwait and I just got back a month ago.

Thanks a lot! :)

sienna rose cruz said...

Hello Sir, your blog was so helpful. I have been looking for this kind of blog since my uncle in NZ encouraged me to take the bridging programme. I have 2 years post-registration experience and i'm now reviewing for my ielts. Your blog was full of information fairly similar from what I've been hearing. However there are couple of things that I still want to know. I was advised kasi to ask help from an agency. Can you recommend any? Or would you advise me to lodge the application by myself? Sir, kung pwede sana makuha ko contact details me kasi feeling ko po kayo makakasagot sa mga katanugan ko eh. Here's my email add
Po : siennarose.cruz@gmail.com please sir i'm hoping for your reply. Maraming salamat. God bless po!

sienna rose cruz said...

I'm counting on you Mr. Blogger. Please do reply if you have time. :)

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@nurzkai, I honestly have no clue about status changes.. when I think about it I see a lot of hassles with the name change as your documents in college and license PRC bears your name when you were single. But if you apply in New Zealand, especially if you plan to take your partner with you, you should be using your married name. Anyway, when you fill out application forms there usually are fields that ask about your maiden name, so I don't think you'll have a problem with that. In my opinion, you must process your papers using your current, legal name before you process your NZ documents. Again, that's just my opinion. You will need the police clearance from the Philippines (NBI) on Stage 2.

@Sienna Rose Cruz, honestly, you can process the documents by yourself.. But the CAP search is quite difficult nowadays because schools are tied up with agencies. Instead of giving my email address, I suggest you become a member of the Nurse2NZ forum and check out the very informative posts by Pinoy nurses who made it to New Zealand by their own. Cheers!

sienna rose cruz said...

Hi @Sa Akin Lang Po, I see. Deciding whether to lodge the application by myself or to seek assistance from an agency was really my concern. Kasi yung experience ko po eh last 2010 pa so kailangan talaga na makapag apply na ko sa nursing Council ASAP.And I think it would be a lot easier pag may agency. Anyway, I'll be joining the Nuse2NZ forum. thanks a lot. All the best!

ezz said...

I regret not visiting the nurse2nz forum when it was still available last year. Nonexisting na po yata siya ngayon. :(

peepz said...

hello po. good day. uhm may tanong lang po ako... may idea po ba kayo na what f maalis na ang nurse sa long term skilled shortage list ng immigration sa nz? ano po ba ang mangyayari? kasi iv heard the nzno suggests that maalis ang na ang nurse sa list kaya daw ni.rereview na ng immigration ang list. what will happen? d na po bang pwd mg.apply ang overseas or foreign nurses sa nz? =( hope u can reply with regards to this matter kasi im planning to apply sa nz po n currently im working in d middle east din. tnx

Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm just worried about the visit visa. is 4 months stay in nz enough to get through the CAP and find a full time job?

Anonymous said...

Hi! I'm working as an ICU nurse here in Riyadh for almost three years now. I just wonder how much the salary is on the average if I'll land a job in the hospice or home care versus that in the hospital? By the way, your blog was crazily helpful and inspiring! Thank you and Godbless. :)

lou macapondag said...

hello sir, your blog was very helpful esp for me na galing din jeddah. sir may i just ask nilagay nyo po bang nurse tech ang registration nyo dun sa verification request sa saudi council, or reg nurse lang po? thank you!

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@ezz, the forum still exists..

@peepz, that's the worrisome issue now regarding foreign trained nurses... they are pushing to limit or fully remove the nurses in the skills shortage list but I don't think that it would be very soon...

@anonymous, i got a job offer within the 4 months validity of my visit visa.. others i know had to extend their visa but eventually landed a job right after visa extension..

@anonymous ICU nurse, your salary grade is commensurate to your previous experience.. if you worked as an ICU nurse for more than 3 years, i urge you to get a job in the hospital.. anyway, your experience is bankable and ICU nurses are still needed in New Zealand..

@lou, i was just browsing my old pictures a few minutes ago and came across the verification form... i wrote 'registered nurse' Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Hello Sir. I just want to ask if did PDOS or signed up for OEC in OWWA before leaving the country. I processed everything on my own and I'm leaving this October. Thank you.

merriam udan said...

Hi sir. Itatanong ko lng po kng ano po ung details ng Saudi council registration certificate xe po mgrerequest po sna ako s office n kumuha nun. Nde daw po xe nla alam. Thank you po.

Anonymous said...

hi sir!

i find ur blog so beneficial.thanks

just wanna ask how can i subscribe to the blogs you've posted above

Jessica said...

Hi! your blogs are very informative. kudos! anyway, i would to ask if pwede gamitin as experience yung 2 yrs derma and dental clinic nurse sa saudi pra magapply as hospital nurse sa NZ? btw, i have almost 3 yrs exp. in a secondary hosp. in the ph prior working in saudi. thanks. Godbless

isabelle said...

@ sa akin lang po... sir i was browsing yung ibang queries, and nbasa ko yung kay jayson oliva and yung reply nyo sknya. bale, related po yung tanong q din dun s problem ng brother nya, sinearch q n kc yung pagka2iba ng nurse tech and nurse specialist and yun nga nurse tech for 2 yrs. nurse course or equivalent s nurse aid then yung nurse specialist, post-grad x. (same lng nung reply nyo. lol) anyway, to add lng po, meron po ba kayo kakila2 na nsa NZ na pro ang prometrics is nurse tech but practicing as reg.nurse in NZ? or sainyo po ba is nurse specialist? sir thank you. btw, im your fan! galing nyo magblog! detailed and bongga ang pagkwento! i hope you make a blog on NZ. katulad nung sa middle east what you should know na may part1 and part 2! coz like you, stepping stone ko rin ang middle east to work on 'open countries' and sbe mo nga 'kung kaya ko, kaya mo rin' . motto ko na po yun ngayon. lol. Goodluck!

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@Jessica, your experience is still considered as Nursing experience.. Dito naman sa New Zealand, it's either you get hired sa DHB hospital, sa private hospital (surgery) or sa rest home.

@Isabelle, ako... Nurse Tech ang nakalagay sa akin dati. Ewan ko ba sa Saudi, alam naman nilang 4 years ang education natin sa Pinas pero Nurse Tech ang nakalagay sa classification nila. Anyway, nilagay ng Saudi Council na Nurse Technician yung classification ko pero nakalagay din dun na ang nursing education ko ay Bachelor's Degree in Nursing (4 years)... Your certificate of employment will vouch that you work as a Registered Nurse..

jqr said...

Hi! I would just like to ask... I'm currently practicing as an Operating Room nurse here in the Philippines for more than 2 years and counting. In fact, I will be celebrating my 3rd year as a regular staff nurse in May 2015. I would just like to ask, are there job vacancies for OR nurses there? I've seen articles about the lack of job opportunities there for Nurses and I really want to pursue the CAP programme by next year. Any insights? Thanks and more power!

isabelle said...

@sa akin lang po. thanks for the reply! :)

pb said...

@sa akin lng po
Hello!
Sir, do you know if the NZ nursing council accepts all paid post graduate experience anywhere?
I have beenn working Libya for almost two years now and I am hoping that my work experience here will be credited. I am worried because Libya doesn't have nursing council and the NZ nursing body might not honor my work experience in here
will be glad to hear from you..
thanks!

Anonymous said...

Good day.. I'm currently working here in UAE. Do you know someone who processed his NZ application from here? I want to have some insightsx God bless.

Jd said...

Hi san po kayo nakapagapply jan sa nz, auckland or dunedin? San po mas mura mag CAP? And mas mataas ang sweldo ? Thanks

Anonymous said...

hi! very informative blog.. keep it up! btw,i have a question.. for Registration Certificate (for Stage 1)aside from PRC Board Certificate, do i need to send a copy of Saudi Council certificates as well? tia!

lou macapondag said...

Hello im also an ex saudi. I will be commencing my cap on january. Yep need po mgsubmit ng saudi council cert sa stage 1, provided na translated ito into english. hopw this helps. :)

Anj said...

Hi sir! I will be having my CAP this January. I have read that you applied online while your CAP is ongoing. That was my original plan, but my friend told me that I cannot do that. Any insight about this? Thank you! God bless!

jamiepd said...

Hi, question po: how can i get my saudi council good standing & police clearance from jeddah? I already exited last july, i've been in ph for almost 7mos na.. Possible pa kaya yun? Thanks

Shermyn Kristine Sagala said...

Hi Sir, I would like to ask how were u able to obtain a certified copy of your saudi council certificate.Thanks I am looking forward to your response.

Amanda Somera said...

Your story is inspiring. Im lucky that i came across your blog, very informative. Before, i didnt know wer exactly to go after passing ielts. After reading every details in your blog, im now encouraged to pursue nz. Im not sure if i will be qualified by the nursing council of nz. Do you know if being a company nurse is considered a clinical experience? I had a 9 months clinic nurse experience, and 2 yrs and counting as company nurse. Industrial nursing is not indicated in their scope of clinical practice, but i dont know if it can fall under primary health care nursing. What do you think? Thanks a lot. More power to you and Godbless: )

ex saudi said...

@sa akin lng po
thanks do much for sharing your experience.
I find it really helpful

ex saudi said...

I'm an ex Saudi nurse with 5 years exp in ER. I already have an acceptance for CAP in UCOL. my intake will be this October to December. however, I'm a bit worried about the visit visa since it will last for only 4 months. do you think I can land a job after my CAP?
hoping you could reply soon.
thanks again! :)

ex saudi said...

@anj

I was browsing thru the convo. I hope you don't mind me asking, how did your CAP go? did you find a job after having your license in NZ?
hoping you could enlighten me on this. thanks a lot. :)

ex saudi said...

@anj

I was browsing thru the convo. I hope you don't mind me asking, how did your CAP go? did you find a job after having your license in NZ?
hoping you could enlighten me on this. thanks a lot. :)

ex saudi said...

@sa akin lng po
thanks do much for sharing your experience.
I find it really helpful

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@Amanda Somera, the best thing to do is email the Council.

@ex saudi... Mabrook! Having lots of experience is your selling point. You won't have any difficulty getting a work visa because of the years of experience. Four months visit visa is enough for you to finish CAP and get a job, but I know lots of friends who needed to extend their visa because they can't find a job. You would hear stories of long-waits but with patience and perseverance darating din naman yun.

TSIMON said...

@ Sa Akin Lang Po

hi! reading your blog was so helpful. I received my approval letter last week. I am trying find a school at the moment.

I wonder why is the MEDICAL part of the break down of your expenses? Isn't it it if I will apply for a 4mos visit visa there is no need for medical??

Do the schools medical clearance as well?

Hoping for kind reply. thanks.

April said...

Hi! Your blog is of real help.. Thank you for sharing all your experiences through this blog..

I have also applied in the NCNZ, but they are asking me for a translated copy of my Professional Accreditation Certificate (mine, is all in Arabic except for the school where I graduated from).. How did you provide an English version of your Professional Accreditation Certificate? Would you know if Saudi Council will give me an English version of this document and how to request it from them? Btw, I am no longer in Saudi Arabia.. any information will be of great help..Thank you and God Bless!

janine ignacio said...

Hello! ^_^

Sir, matanong lang po.. nurse din po ako ngayon dito sa Saudi for 4yrs na, gusto ko din po sana magpa-assess sa NZ, kung halimbawa pong magkaron din ako ng approval letter at hahanap ako ng CAP, at ang visit visa at kung palarin ay makahanap din ng work, pwede ba jan na hindi ako nag-exit dito sa Saudi? as in Re-entry visa ako..

Balak ko po kasi isabay yung CAP ko sa vacation ko, yung employer ko po kasi ay nagbibigay ng re-entry valid for 6 months, kung gusto mong bumalik or hindi na depende na sayo kaya ganun yung binibigay nya sa lahat ng magbabakasyon sa Pinas.

Bale may back-up plan ako kung sakaling wala ako mahanap dyan ay pwede ako bumalik dito.. Ang tanong ko po ay kung meron man ako mahanap jan at matanggap, wala po ba magiging problema kung hindi ako exit dito?

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Tzietel Alquisada said...

Sir this blog is by far the most helpful. I want to ask which visa you used.i know many agencies recommend tourist visa for cap takers but I am afraid things will go wrong and will end up going home.I heard some say to opt for other visa. I do not want to thr dtudent visa. It id too costly. I have 7 years experience in total.both in ph and saudi. Im based in riyadh.thank you

Yeng said...

Sir,Im here in Riyadh working for almost 5 1/2 years, sa stage 2, do I need to apply here for NBI in Phil.Embassy,Riyadh and secure another police certificate?
About sa Saudi Council certificate, need po ba ipacertify un pati ung saudi Council ID?
Thank you so much.

janine ignacio said...

hello Mam, ask ko lang po kung nakapagstart na kayo sa stage 1? dito ako sa Jeddah.

Hasoony said...

The NZNC has recently had MAJOR changes/updates regarding the application process for the Internationally Qualified Nurses which has become partly electronic. I am currently processing my application while working here in KSA and looking to see if anyone who might come across this page/comment (who are in the process of application as IQN) would like to discuss the new guidelines further and share some relevant feedbacks, personal experiences and concerns. This would be very much appreciated. Thank you very much!

Also, my sincerest Mabrook to my very good friend for this fantastic blog! Keep inspiring more Nurses. You have always been an inspiration and blessing to me and all of us. Thank you!!! Hope to see you there NZ in God's will!

ex saudi said...

Kia Ora to all Ex-Saudi Nurses!

I am happy to tell everyone that Im already here in New Zealand and have just graduated from the CAP course in EIT and Im really grateful sa blog na to and I'd like to help my fellow nurses.

Im just having trouble with finding a job kasi holiday na dito sa NZ and HR will probably accept applicants again maybe by January, so then I have to extend my visa which is 5 months maximum and a show money of 1000nzd per month. Just to prove that you can sustain your self while in NZ.

To Nurses abroad especially in Saudi, while you are still there, please do process all your papers. Obtain your police clearance and your saudi nursing council. make sure din na correct ung mga character references following ung guidelines na binigay ng nz nursing council. Make sure na may copies kayu or have two original copies if u can kasi they might ask for it again here in NZ and you will need it to apply for CAP Schools here.

Obtain NBI Clearance from the Philippines through the embassy or much better na lang na may kilala kayu from the NBI Main office. ( under the table) :p

But my best advise is to stay in your job in Saudi or wherever while awaiting for the decision of the Nursing Council. I had a bad experience myself. I resigned from my work in SAudi thinking that the Council would approve my application but then I got stuck in Pinas for 9 months. :( Sayang din naman na may gap ung nursing experience ko and especially may sahud pa sana.. hehe..

If you have more questions, feel free to drop a message and I'll answer as soon as I can. :)

Good luck to us all.

Michael Kuli said...

Hello po!..Im currently working here in SG..matanong ko lng po how many days/months ang processing ng NZNC from stage 1 to stage 2?..gus2 ko lng po mlaman sa mga nkatapos na ng application sa NZNC so that I can prepare or save more pra sa CAP..Thank you very much!.

Tzietel Alquisada said...

With all respect to the blogger, I just made a fb group "nurses from middle east to new zealand" hope we can all help each other.

Yeng said...

Hello Thanks for this blog, I was able to complete my paperworks to the Nursing Council of New Zealand with all the information/details here. I was given already a CAP offer letter lastweek and currently naghahanap na ako ng school na may slots for early next year. Hope may makakasabay ako dto to commence CAP in NZ. Thank you everyone for everything.

@Michael, you start now processing your stage 1 documents. for me umabot ng 2 months from stage 1-stage2 hanggang sa approval ng NCNZ.

@Tzietel, I can't find the group page in FB.

@Ex-saudi, Congratulations for completing the CAP course. How was the CAP course, mahirap po ba? ano mga usual routines na ginagawa nyo?
Hope makakahanap na din ako ng school to accommodate me to start my CAP course early next year. Exit na din ako here in Riyadh.

ex saudi said...

@yeng
The CaP course isn't difficult at all. Parang refresher course lng sa atin sa pinas about iv medications and calculations, diabetes, heart dse, ecg, bla, and new zealand nursing.

I had a pinay friend here that unfortunately failed the cap in the clinical placement. She was also an ex saudi nurse for 5 years. However, regardless of your experience, we pinoys should remain humble. Better be meek while still a student here in NZ.

Do well din sa clinical placement kasi may instances na nahire agad ung mga cap nurses if you have a good attitude and may vacancy sa unit.

Joanne said...

Hi there. Tanong ko lang naguluhan kasi ako kung ano ba yung name changed documents for filipinos. married kasi ako gamit ko na surname ng husband ko.

Anonymous said...

Hey there, may i know what are the specific documents u got here from saudi that needs authentication from the philippine embassy? Im a little bit lost, thank u so much

Anonymous said...

Hey there, im a little bit lost on the authentication of passport, i am also here in riyadh, does that mean i have to go to the philippine embassy here in riyadh? Can i not do that in the philippines? Cause i'll be having may exit this march already, thankx a lot

Anonymous said...

Hi pede po ba pasend ng registration verification form nyo na blank. Ipapakita ko lang sa mga tao sa HR namin. Thanks. kevkurt03@gmail.com. Para magets nila yung iniinquire ko skanila. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Hi @ex saudi. Thanks for sharing your experience! If you don't mind, can I email you personally for some of my questions about CAP, EIT, and getting started. Thanks! I will really appreciate it. :-)
Here: ghenson@sfhd.med.sa

haydz xxx said...

From what i've read the nursing council will send the verification to ur school ang regulatory authority to verify ur qualification

haydz xxx said...

Hey there, r u here in saudi also?

haydz xxx said...

From what i've read the nursing council will send the verification to ur school ang regulatory authority to verify ur qualification

peepz said...

Hello there. I've been reading this blog for while and it is really helpful if u have plans coming here to nz. I also came from the Middle East but sa Bahrain ako ng.work before. Anyway, the verification forms will be given to the applicant once you'll be in stage 2 and you will be the one to give it to your Nursing School and Licensing Authority (both from Pinas n Saudi). Once completed, they should send it back to the NZ Nsg Council not you (applicant). Hope this will help. Good Luck on your application and God Bless =)

haydz xxx said...

Ay mali pala ako, hehe, sorry, what did you do with your reference letter? Because according to the guidelines in the nursing council website, the referee shoukd include their credentials, what does that mean? Thank u very much

haydz xxx said...

Ay mali pala ako, hehe, sorry, what did you do with your reference letter? Because according to the guidelines in the nursing council website, the referee shoukd include their credentials, what does that mean? Thank u very much

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Karina said...

Hi! Love the pics

May I know which school did you pick for CAP?

I'm from the Philippines and I'm processing to go to NZ as well via CAP

Unknown said...

mataas po ang success rate ng filipinos taking CAP?

Yeng said...

Hello po good day po. Magtatanong po sana ako kung ano ung ilalagay na date registration sa transcript request form po na isesend sa school? Is that pertaining on the date of graduation po? Hoiping for a quick reply po. Thank you very much po.

czarmei said...

Yes. Yun yung date of graduation. :)

Anonymous said...

hello everyone. I hope someone can help me with my queries.Im currently working here in Saudi but Im planning to apply for the NCNZ and I have read that one of their requirements for the employment certificate should include the name, age, dob, # of duty hours and license number. My problem is that our HR office will not include such details in the employment certificate. Is there any other alternative for this? I will really appreciate your suggestions.TIA

czarmei said...

Hi! I am also currently working in Saudi Arabia, and I encountered the same problem when I was applying coz our HR also told me they couldnt include the details needed by the NCNZ coz they are just following the same format for the Employment certificate they are releasing. However, what I did was, aside from the COE I got from the HR, I just asked a certificate from our Nursing office which includes all the needed information by the NCNZ like the date of birth, working hours, etc. It was signed by our Director of Nursing. :) I submitted both when I applied for registration. Hope this helps :) Good luck!

Anonymous said...

@czarmei: thanks so much for the info. I took ur advice and i hope it will suffice the needed requirement. Im just concerned about the COE without the hospital seal? Im really hoping the DON stamp and signature is enough. Anyway, thanks again..

Anonymous said...

I recieved my NCNZ letter already. Im now looking for a school to enrol. What school would you recommend? Tnx

Anonymous said...

Anybody here po specially those who are ex saudi and applied for NCNZ who excluded their saudi license? Coz i ask one consultancy and they advised me to exclude the saudi license since there will be additional requirements specially that the Saudi Council is taking too long in processing the verification. I hope someone else will be able to give me an advice regarding this. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Please help me, Saan po ba kayo nagpa certified true copy ng OET/IELTS results nyo khobar area po ako. Sana po matulungan nyo ako.

itsme said...

Hello good day i am currently working here also in jeddah , may i know po f how did u guys managed ur time in working and in reviewing for ielts? Like thats a real struggle for me . And pano po ang pgreview nyo ? Thank you po .

Anonymous said...

@itsme: How many working hours per day do you have? I feel you. It is very difficult to study and work at the same time. I also worked in Jeddah. What I did was, I booked the test 1 month before the schedule. Studied/listened to podcasts after work or if I am tired, after resting/sleeping, then I took a 7-day leave 1week before the test. It also depends on your English level. If you think you need more time, you need to allocate more practice and work on your weakness. Bank on your determination and prayers! I hope that helps!

itsme said...

Hello anonymous , i work 12 hours/shift 4 days a week . Wow for that kind of determination, i salute you . I find it too hard for me and my english level is not that extravagantly good lol . Have a question to raise also regarding the application , my post registration experience 3 yrs in philippines , and 1 yr and ongoing here in jeddah , is it ok dat my current yrs of experience is only 1yr and 6 months ? A total of 3456 hours excluded my phil experience. Hope to hear from u soon guys , thank you .

Anonymous said...

@itsme: Your work schedule is challenging because that is very tiring. You can try to study for 2mos, then study on off days. Take a leave a week before exam. It really helps to get your focus. :) With regards to your Q, Im sorry I couldnt answer. I only used my Saudi experience as it was needed in the COE to include the number of hours. But I suggest you contact or ask someone from your old hospital and let them make the COE with the prescribed format of NCNZ.

feelingero said...

@anonymous so ok lang po na gamitin ang current experience? at hindi yung whole post licensing exp? example e yung sa pilipinas e wag na gamitin? ganun po ba yun?
and successful po bang tinagap yung experience nyo kahit hidi included ang mga previous experience. sana naitindhan nyo po question ko. salamat

Anonymous said...

@feelingero Yup. I had solid 6 years experience and 1 year in Pinas. So I decided not to include my experience sa Pinas kc hassle ang paperworks but I included it in my CV. I dont know if it has a bearing pro na approve nman agad sa akin. Wala cla hiningi na additional documents. Iba nman kc ang case nya kc if she will not use her previous experience, she cant have the 2 year post registration experience. I am not sure if valid yung 3,000hrs in less than 2 years na work so I suggest she should contact her case officer kc npaka accommodating nila. They will give you exact answers.

feelingero said...

@anonymous ok sir salamat, another question ang school nurse ba ok gamitin? yan kasi new work ko, and pwede ko ba i email ang nz nursing council para ma verify experience ko?

Anonymous said...

@feelingero I have no idea if a school nurse experience is accepted. Yes, you can email them regarding your concern. In my case, I contacted them because I had 2 registrations for verification (PH and SA) license. I didnt know the process on how to authenticate the one from Saudi.

feelingero said...

@anonymous ah ok, i also have 2 registration phil and UAE i guess that's another problem .... usually they will reply how man working days?

Anonymous said...

@feelingero they will reply within hours except on weekends. I used to submit translated and certified registration certificate of my saudi license. I wasnt required to authenticate as what we do with our PH license.

feelingero said...

weird they did not reply until now. (registration@nursingcouncil.org.nz) im using the correct email right? ah okay so certified by the authority itself? in my case Dubai health authority

Sa Akin Lang Po said...

@feelingero, we just had a long weekend here in New Zealand (Queen's birthday) kaya baka ngayong Tuesday lang nila masagot yung email mo.

feelingero said...

@SA AKING LANG PO, thank you so much for the blog. We are inspired now to take chances in nz. However, they replied and my queries were not answered directly. they just told me to check the first time registration assesment, really its frustrating.

Anonymous said...

@feelingero Mine was translated and notarized by a notary public in Saudi accredited by US/PH embassies. Ask specific questions which are not in the packet/guide. The guide itself is very detailed.

Silver Brave said...

Good day, I am just actually waiting for my decision letter to apply for CAP. I would like to ask if you have any idea if how long would it take for them to assess the papers up to releasing of the approval? My documents were already completed and was marked ready for assessment. They have a new process of obtaining criminal history by the way, it's through FIT2WORK, but it should be done on the first week of your CAP program. :)

Anonymous said...

Hi, I have already sent all the documents to the Nursing Council last April and May, all of my docs were received as seen on the tracker except for my marriage certificate and verification from PRC, I am just wondering why is it taking too long for the 2 documents to appear in the online tracker when I have sent them at the same time. Is this happening to all? I have emailed the Nursing Council but got no reply. Thanks for your help.

Anonymous said...

Kelan pa po kayo nagpasa documents? Worried po ako kasi nearly 1 month di pa din po kumpleto nasa tracker pero nasubmit na po lahat.

Silver Brave said...

Pakicheck ng email mo baka may instructions sila in case my problem. Usually pag di nakapost sa tracker my kunting problem yan. I had exprienced that before when I submitted my stage 1 papers nag ka prob ang reference letters ko and CV. Di ko napansin na sinama nila sa confirmation email of reference number ang spcial instructions that i have to send again the letters of references and CV due to lacking of some important details. Kung ano yung sinabi nila, in detail yun din xa ang gagawin..:) Paki ask ang council thru email sa registration department they will reply to you in 24 to 48 hrs in case wala tlagang updates doon sa documents mo. Please mention your application number pag mag inquire ka. I submitted my requirements last April 27 and ready for assessment by May 31. Medyo natagalan nacomplete kasi i have to send an updated CV and Letters kasi may lacking na statements.

Silver Brave said...

In addition: Once completed ang documents mag lalagay sila ng "ready for assessment" na statement sa second table sa baba..

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much. Marriage certificate at verification na lang ang kulang sa tracker, i asked through email kung may problem po kaso walang reply. Hindi ko na nga po alam pano pa magfollow up kasi di pa inaupdate tracker til now. April 29 ko po sinend stage 1 docs and yung ibang references may prob so i sent the updated ones nung may 17, yung mga yun po naupdate na sa tracker. Magfollow up na lang po ulit ako, baka sakali magreply sila

Silver Brave said...

You're welcome. You can ask them now if you have time. Usually the earlier ka mag email mas earlier din sila nag rereply lalo na pag urgent ang inquiry. 4 hours ahead ang nz so if you email them now maybe bukas na sila makareply.. Usually si Nicole Witzel ang nagrereply sa mga ganoong querries.. Once masettle mo yang dalwang requeirements it will be ready for assessment. God bless..

Anonymous said...

Maraming salamat po talaga. Opo si Nicole ang nagrereply. Anyway, ask ko lang po, nung nagsubmit po kayo Verification, nagappear po ba ito agad sa online tracker?

Silver Brave said...

You're welcome.. Yes, nag aappear agad yung tracker. As i observe everytime mareceive ng NCNZ ang mailed documents the next day they will update the tracker right away..

Anonymous said...

Sa akin po, medyo strange, wala po talaga yung 2 documents. Maraming salamat po ulit. Pwede po ba akong magtanong about sa process sa inyo via email po? Kung ok lang po maam/sir.

Silver Brave said...

I am a sir po..:D Sounds strange tlaga.. i hope ma okay na yang documents mo. Yung email process, i send an inquiry to the registration department ng council. Same process lang din like yours.

Anonymous said...

Nagfollow up na po ako ulit. Sana magreply para maayos ko if ever may malinsa 2 docs. Agency po kasi nagpasa nun so inaassume ko maayos na po yun.
Yung assessment po nakalagay sa website 30 working days max pero sabi ng mga friends ko po na nakapagCAP na recently eh 2 weeks nakareceive na sila ng decision.

Silver Brave said...

I see.. Ako kasi direct na ako nag apply, di na ako nag agency. Hustle lang sa aking part kasi i am the one to process the documents. I see, may iba 30 to 40 days lumalabas ang decision letters nila. Mag 1 week palang on going yung aking assessment sa council. That would be better if 2 weeks, ang nakalagay kasi is minimum of 30 days.

Anonymous said...

Hi, got no reply from Council. I do not know what to do to follow up my application.

Silver Brave said...

if not through email, you can call the council.. Thanks God I got already my CAP approval..:)

Czarpotato said...

Congrats on your CAP approval! I also got mine a month ago, but I haven't started applying for the program yet. Have you chosen your school yet?

Silver Brave said...

I just got an offer letter at Lonsdale for CAP, but still waiting for the reply of NMIT, OTAGO and INSTITUTE of Canterbury because they have earlier schedule of CAP. when do you plan to apply for cap? thank you..:D

Mayex said...

Hi kababayans. Anyone here who will have their cap at eit this september? Pls do comment here. Thank you.

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Czarpotato said...

By this year if I'll get an offer of place..but if not, maybe by the first quarter of next year. Did you send your documents by post or you just electronically mailed it to them?

Michelle said...

hi...I'm quite struggling because of the necessary documents needed by NZNC...Unlike you, I managed to secure the help of an agency here in the Philippines and you are right, it costs me more than i expected. That is because I don't how to do it alone. By the way, I've worked in Saudi Arabia for over 5 years. I wasnt able to request my Good Standing certificate, however i brought home all the certificates provided by SCFHS. Now, the problem that i'm sort of struggling about is the translation of my professional accreditation certificate. Honestly, i kind of panicked because i only got a limited time to secure this paper. Question is, does it have to be translated in the office of SCFHS or any reputable translation office in Saudi Arabia?Please help me on this...thank you

Anonymous said...

Hello Michelle, you can request a Good Standing certificate online.

Anonymous said...

@michelle Thats your SCHS Certificate. The gray one. I had it translated by an accredited law office and notarized at the same time. I was still in Saudi that time. I asked NCNZ how the process goes and thats the instuction by NCNZ.

Anonymous said...

Hi congratulations on your CAP approval! Sabi sayo 2 weeks lang :) anyway, i would like to seek help from you, ask ko lang kung may sched ba ang NZ Embassy to process authentication? Thanks

Silver Brave said...

Thank you :D Ang NZ embassy every Wednesday yan sila nag aauthenticate 10 am to 12 pm lang so dapat masched mo ng maayos ang transaction mo. Di naman sila strict basta okay na ang document at my tatak ng DFA (Red Ribbon) pwede na kahit kaibigan mo mag pa authenticate sa NZ embassy sa MAkati. 1,600 php ang fee, makuha mo agad.

Silver Brave said...

If i am not wrong, that is the Board cert that you are going to send for NZ embassy authentication.. :)

Anonymous said...

Actually tapos na po yung board cert. Marriage cert inult ko kasi di nagappear. So yun na lang po ang asikasuhin ko. Tumawag ka po ba dati sa council or nagpunta lang po kayo?

Anonymous said...

Di pala council, nz embassy pala sorry. Kelangan po ba may appointment po ako?

Silver Brave said...

I see, personal na ako pumunta sa NZ embassy Anonymous for my board cert. No need to set an appointment, you can go straight or as walk in between 10 am to 12 pm (WEDNESDAY only). every wednesday kasi ang authentication sched nila.

Unknown said...

Hi. I am interested in going to NZ and a bit confuse kung mag agency ba ako or direct for CAP.. Any advice thanks

badhet Jaramillo said...

Any networking sites to ask you some questions thanks

badhet Jaramillo said...

Hi. I am interested in going to NZ and a bit confuse kung mag agency ba ako or direct for CAP.. Any advice thanks

Silver Brave said...

@Unknown, You can apply directly provided to already completed the requirements for the CAP. 2 years of clinical experience or min. of 2,500 hrs experience.. If you want less hassle. you can also seek the services of reputable agencies to assist you on your journey..:)

Silver Brave said...

@Badhet Jaramillo, i recommend this blog to you in case you want to have some ideas about the CAP application. You can browse and read the discussions above and you may gain some ideas from different people here. I actually just discovered this blog when i was searching for advises on CAP process. This blog really helped. I would recommend too the Star of Earendil blog for you.. if you want to have direct informations i advise you to browse the website of NCNZ , www.nursingcouncil.org.nz

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for your help sir. Anyway, if for example nandun ako ng mga 11.30, will they still accept me or depende sa haba ng queue, for example 12 na pero di pa tapos nasa pila, will they tell us to go next Wed? Or tatapusin nila pila as long as nandun ka by 12?

Silver Brave said...

You're welcome. As long as di ka pa umabot ng 12pm . kasi pagka 12 pm ka dumating, cut -off na nila yan. if 11:30 am ka dumating pwede pa yan, tatapusin nila yan . mabilis lang ang pag authenticate walang mahabang pila.

Anonymous said...

Makukuha din agad sir ang document within the day?

Silver Brave said...

yes makukuha mo agad, within an hour or less makukuh mo na..

Anonymous said...

san ko po pwedeng ipatranslate ang Registration Certificate ko galing saudi? salamat po

Silver Brave said...

i see, you mean translate into English? I am not sure with that but you may ask or request an authorityto create a translated version, who ever the body na responsible for that like sa Pinas may tagalog ang english version sa cert.

Michelle said...

Thank you for the immediate response, actually I asked one of my colleague for help regarding the translation and now they will send it directly to NZNC...Now, the next thing that I'm sort of struggling about at this very moment is the verification request... I mailed nicole on how to make the request and she just responded by calling the saudi commission....I really need your enlightenment about this...

Clark Wayne said...

hi. anyone here from UAE? Im completing my documents for stage 1. just want to ask some questions kung saan kayo nagpa certified true copy ng documents? thanks.

Clark Wayne said...

1. Registration certificate (certified copy of the original)
You must provide evidence of your initial registration in your home country (your registration
certificate) and of your current registration status, from the relevant regulatory authority. The
registration must contain an expiry date.
Applicants from the Philippines must provide an authenticated Board certificate. For the
authentication procedure, please see the General Information section.

----

Applicants from the Philippines
Authentication of documents
The public documents you provide to support your application for registration in New Zealand must
be authenticated and notarised in the Philippines by a duly commissioned notary public or any other
official duly authorised by law to perform notarial functions in the Philippines.
The certified documents must then be submitted to the Department of Foreign Affairs for
authentication by its Authentication Division.
The authenticated document will then be submitted to the Consular Section of the Embassy of New
Zealand in the Philippines, which will certify the authenticity of the signature affixed by the
authentication officer of the Department of Foreign Affairs.---

hi again. tanong ko lang sana. are they pertaining to the PRC BOARD CERTIFICATE? and pano po process na gnawa nyo if you are outside Philippines. Shukran

Clark Wayne said...

1. Registration certificate (certified copy of the original)
You must provide evidence of your initial registration in your home country (your registration
certificate) and of your current registration status, from the relevant regulatory authority. The
registration must contain an expiry date.
Applicants from the Philippines must provide an authenticated Board certificate. For the
authentication procedure, please see the General Information section.

----

Applicants from the Philippines
Authentication of documents
The public documents you provide to support your application for registration in New Zealand must
be authenticated and notarised in the Philippines by a duly commissioned notary public or any other
official duly authorised by law to perform notarial functions in the Philippines.
The certified documents must then be submitted to the Department of Foreign Affairs for
authentication by its Authentication Division.
The authenticated document will then be submitted to the Consular Section of the Embassy of New
Zealand in the Philippines, which will certify the authenticity of the signature affixed by the
authentication officer of the Department of Foreign Affairs.---

hi again. tanong ko lang sana. are they pertaining to the PRC BOARD CERTIFICATE? and pano po process na gnawa nyo if you are outside Philippines. Shukran

Clark Wayne said...

hi again. based on the excerpt below, tanong ko lang sana. are they pertaining to the PRC BOARD CERTIFICATE? and pano po process na gnawa nyo if you are outside Philippines. Shukran.

---Registration certificate (certified copy of the original)
You must provide evidence of your initial registration in your home country (your registration
certificate) and of your current registration status, from the relevant regulatory authority. The
registration must contain an expiry date.
Applicants from the Philippines must provide an authenticated Board certificate. For the
authentication procedure, please see the General Information section.

----

Applicants from the Philippines
Authentication of documents
The public documents you provide to support your application for registration in New Zealand must
be authenticated and notarised in the Philippines by a duly commissioned notary public or any other
official duly authorised by law to perform notarial functions in the Philippines.
The certified documents must then be submitted to the Department of Foreign Affairs for
authentication by its Authentication Division.
The authenticated document will then be submitted to the Consular Section of the Embassy of New
Zealand in the Philippines, which will certify the authenticity of the signature affixed by the
authentication officer of the Department of Foreign Affairs.---

Anonymous said...

Hi CLark, sa kahit anong law office.

clark said...

thanks for the response po. ano po pala ung registration cert na reqts sa stage 1? eto po ba ung sa PRC na Board certificate na parang diploma?

Also, kung registered ka dto sa UAE so kailangan din po ba un? Salamat

Anonymous said...

hi. sino po meron template for COE here? nag tanong kasi ung HR namin and try daw nila gawin. alam nyo naman po mga mahirap sila kausap at dpat may template. hehe. shukran

feelingero said...

@CLARK kabayan san ka sa uae?and sa hospital kaba work? dha license ako kaso school nurse lang ako

clark said...

@feelingero send moko email. clarkwayne143@gmail.com

feelingero said...

@clark email sent

Czarpotato said...

Have you heard from Otago already? Coz that's where I'm planning to apply sana.

Silver Brave said...

Hello everyone, I am applying now for Visitor Visa in the Philippines for CAP school in NZ. I would like to ask if what category does CAP students in visitor visa falls in: GENERAL VISA, BUSINESS VISA, SPECIAL CATEGORY VISITOR VISA? If it is a special category, what would be the specification? Need some advice.

Czarpotato said...

Which school did you choose?

Clark Wayne said...

@CZARPOTATO. hi. can u email me at clarkwayne143@gmail.com. may tatanong lang sana ko . thanks po

Anonymous said...

Hey guys....this is regarding the verification request. nag work ako sa ksa Riyadh for 5 years then nag end of contract ako just to pursue my dream of becoming a nurse in New Zealand. nasa stage 2 na ako ng application ko for New Zealand. Anghirap palang mag apply Kung yung nga needed documents ay sa saudi pa mismo manggagaling. Ngayon kasi nahihirpan akong mag send ng verification request kasi ala naman akong close na local para mag explain as Saudi council, even yung nga dati kong workmates, nahihiya naman akong mag ask ng favor kasi malayo sa olaya ang Saudi council, at siguradong lantang gulay na ang nga staff Kapag umuwi. Please, ano pa Kaya ang ibang option para maprocess ko na yung verification request...please please...advice naman jan...thank you

Ting Ting Tanguan said...

Hello guys!.Hope you could help me with my problem...Im an ex saudi nurse and im currently applying for CAP in NZ but the problem is my SCFHS is not translated in English...i already existed the country and now im on panic since i dont know now what to do..please help me...Thank you

Ting Ting Tanguan said...

Hello! Im also a nurse from KSA...and im now preparing my documents for the stage one. May i ask if my good standing is enough for my registration certificate as my current status? Thank you!

Ting Ting Tanguan said...

Hello! Im also a nurse from KSA...and im now preparing my documents for the stage one. May i ask if my good standing is enough for my registration certificate as my current status? Thank you!

Ting Ting Tanguan said...

Hello! Im also a nurse from KSA...and im now preparing my documents for the stage one. May i ask if my good standing is enough for my registration certificate as my current status? Thank you!

Ting Ting Tanguan said...

Hello! Im also a nurse from KSA...and im now preparing my documents for the stage one. May i ask if my good standing is enough for my registration certificate as my current status? Thank you!

Ting Ting Tanguan said...

@czarmei hello!! Im an ex saudi too can i ask you something about the stage 1 of CAP? Thanks!!

Anonymous said...

Hello Ting, you can have it translated at any sharia court here in the philippines, then pa-notarize mo sa law office.

Czarpotato said...

Unfortunately, that's the only option you've got for the verification of your Saudi license and registration. Kelangan tlaga, somebody will go to Saudi council para isubmit yung form personally, then babalikan after 3 days. Minsan kahit 3 days, pagdating mo dun, aantayin mo pa yung magsisign kasi unless na kulitin mo yung staff, di nila aasikasuhin agad. Saken nun, whole day ako nagantay para lang makumpleto yung form. Just ask a favor from your ex-colleagues para maasikaso nila yun on your behalf.

Czarpotato said...

@Ting: Nope. Aside from the Good Standing Certificate, you also need to provide them the Registration Certificate from Saudi Council, a certified True Copy of that, and it must be translated in English. Plus a certified True Copy of your Saudi License as well.

Anonymous said...

Hello to ex saudi applicants who are already here in the philippines.. How did u manage to verify ur saudi council license??? Its really a struggle to deal with😢😢😢... Any suggestions please...thanks

Anonymous said...

Czarpotato...crossing my fingers .. nag ask ako nag favor sa friend kong local, kahit Saudi pinapabalik siya after a week para sa official seal and signature nung verification request at sana maprocess siya ngayong week, and for further information nasabihan siyang personal ang pag send via courier....so far alang advice ang council about my good standing certificate, do you think ipasend ko an rin yun para minsanan, or kailangan ko pang ipacertify yun? Salamat

Anonymous said...

hello po sa mga nagpa verify sa saudi council.. may i ask how much did u pay for the courier fee. thanks

Czarpotato said...

From riyadh to nz. Approx 300-350 SR

Czarpotato said...

Yung good standing certificate, ipprint lang yun. No need na ipacertify.

Czarpotato said...

It is, especially if asa Pinas ka na. But you can ask your friends who are still working in Riyadh to process it for you.

Anonymous said...

Sir Clark, san ka pala sa UAE? Sa Abu Dhabi ka ba? Magtatanong sana ako sayo kung okay lang.

Jayson oliva said...

Hi, just wanna ask about Saudi council verification. Nawala Po kc Saudi council certificate q. Is it still possible to do the verification with out the certificate? I just got a copy of my Saudi council lic. Or I need to apply for certificate renewal before proceeding to verification. Salamat Po

Gladz said...

hi. saan po pwede magpa certified true copy ng mga docs maliban po sa consulate. Salamat

Anonymous said...

Hi Silver Brave! What school did you enrol to? Have you processed your visa yet? Thanks �� I am now in the process of finding a CAP school.

Anonymous said...

tanong lng po sa mga ex saudi applicants... clarify ko lng kung ano dapat isulat sa date registered sa verification letter. kc unlike sa prc card my reg.date and expiry date.. but for the moh license, expiry date lng nakalagy just in case po na un ang pagbabasehan sa date registered. thank you po.

Silver Brave said...

Hello Anonymous, I am enrolled at NMIT and already have my visa..:)

Anonymous said...

Wow sir congrats! I sent you an email po, I think kayo din po yung nasa isang blog? Same kasi na Silver Brave. I have question po about NMIT. Thank you.

graycat said...

@silverbrave , wow my visa k na, Paano mo na secure yun titirahan sa NZ?

Silver Brave said...

Hello Anonymous,check your inbox.:)

Silver Brave said...

Hello Graycat, thank you.. I secured my accommodation through network of nurses in You can find them through facebook NZ Pinoy Nurses, you can also find us in that group. You can also use Trade me account if you want more choices kaso dapat NZ resident ka so i encourage you to join the page as well. You will have as much people there too if you need help.

graycat said...

@silverbrave, salamat sa quick reply:)

Anonymous said...

hello.. if i may ask @ czarpotato.. how did u pay for the fees sa saudi council? dun b mismo magbayad or thru bank.. balak ko kc ipa DHL nlng mga docu q for verification sa scfhs as i am already here in the phil.kc wla ako mautusan mag process sa riyad. pero problema ko paano ung bayad. thanks po..

graycat said...

Hello everyone,
Sino po mg intake dito s ARA this October?

Czarpotato said...

Oh, I see. I'm still here kasi in Saudi Arabia that's why I was the one who processed the documents by myself. Yung shipping fee lang yung binayaran ko..

Edward said...

who is going to take CAP on September in Christchurch?

Jayson oliva said...

Ask your Saudi friend to translate the certificate. Andun reg date

gladz said...

hi. good day. tanong ko lang sana regarding dun sa prc license verification. ano po lahat ng reqts? ipapasuyo ko lang kasi sa friend ko so gusto ko prepare lahat ng reqts. also, ano po ung updated na costs doon? Thanks

Anonymous said...

meron po ba kayong sample ng verification gaing saudi? yung filled out na? para maguide ko po sana yung magfifill out.

thank you po

Anonymous said...

hi po.
anyone here who applied for NZ visa on their own while in Saudi Arabia?
ano po ung steps for visa application dito?

Anonymous said...

Hi! I’ve been reading around this blog for quite sometime now and it has been a huge help! I have a question and hopefully if you can help me out.
I’ve just received the CAP letter from NZNC and is looking for a school now to undergo the CAP course. I havent received any replies yet from the schools to which I applied. My problem is Im getting married this September. Im kinda anxious on what will happen to my applications to any of the CAP providers and NZNC cause I have used my maiden name. If God permits and my marriage will push through this September, I plan to apply for a change of name to my husband’s name, which means my maiden name on the PRC license and Passport,which I have used during my initial application in NZNC, will be changed. And I am ambivalent on what will happen then to my application in NZNC? Can anyone please advice? Thank you!

Anonymous said...

hi everyone!
i recently got accepted for CAP in Christchurch.i did everything on my own and now i am in the process of applying NZ visa.anyone knows which type of visa i will apply for? thank u.

Anonymous said...

Hello guys! Just need an advice, just got the offer from Rannerdale for Feb intake. Is it ok to sign the letter for acceptance eventhough I am not yet sure and still waiting for the other schools?

Carmichael Tuplano said...

Carl,

Ask Ko lng po kung my sino my alam sa inyo kung saan makikita yung date of registration sa Saudi council id. Kelangan Ko lng malaman para maisulat sa verification form sa Saudi council. Thank you. More power sa blog.

Anonymous said...

Hi sir! Kamusta po ang NMIT CAP? This is Aina po, yung nagemail po sa inyo dati.

Anonymous said...

Hello po..anybody here processing their saudi license verification?? Ask ko lng po what title should i write kc in my saudi license Nurse Technician po nkalagay... Unlike PRC na registered nurse ang nakalagay.. Thanks po sa magrereply...

Anonymous said...

Hi ex saudi!
Pwd q po b malaman an emailad m? An intake q ng cap ay this october n. May mga tanong lng po sana q. Thank you and godbless!

Anonymous said...

Hello, ask ko lang po sana if I can bring my husband and child with me during CAP. thank you very much.

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